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let's listen for a bit. >> gabby giffords is going to give a brief message. and captain kelly, thank you for your help in bringing your wife here. miss giffords. >> okay. thank you for inviting me here today. this is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for democrats and republicans. speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. thank you. >> captain kelly, you want to help miss giffords out and i'll give you a few moments and -- >> gabby giffords with words that cannot fail to move you as she struggles with speech. the shooting in tucson, she was shot at point blank range and worth saying that the suspect jared loughner, charged with so many counts of murder, went into a gun shop and was able to buy a glock in spite of the fact there was a pretty well documented history of mental illness and went into a big store and
let's listen for a bit. >> gabby giffords is going to give a brief message. and captain kelly, thank you for your help in bringing your wife here. miss giffords. >> okay. thank you for inviting me here today. this is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for democrats and republicans. speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard...
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gabby giffords testifying this morning, an emotional plea. you've become part of the mayors against illegal guns and congressman, i want to ask you, what's your reaction to having heard the testimony of gabby giffords today and the impact that she can make in having common sense conversation about the debate? >> well, i mean, i hope the testimony of congresswoman giffords is compelling to members of the senate. look, we need to enact common sense gun safety legislation. we need to fix the broken background check system to be sure that criminals and people seriously mentally ill don't have access to guns. we need to close loopholes at gun shows and fire sales when a gun dealer has a licensed revoked. there's things we can do. there's legislation to fix those things. no one is suggesting people don't have a right to a firearm, but we need to make sure people with no right to a gun, convicted of a crime, serious mental illness, don't have access to firearms, and we need to protect our communities. there's good common sense answers to this. we sh
gabby giffords testifying this morning, an emotional plea. you've become part of the mayors against illegal guns and congressman, i want to ask you, what's your reaction to having heard the testimony of gabby giffords today and the impact that she can make in having common sense conversation about the debate? >> well, i mean, i hope the testimony of congresswoman giffords is compelling to members of the senate. look, we need to enact common sense gun safety legislation. we need to fix the...
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congresswoman gabby giffords showed unbelievable courage on capitol hill today. now we'll see if the cowards in congress have the character to do something about guns in this country. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> too many children are dying. we must do something. >> gabby giffords makes a surprise emotional plea, and the nra responds with nonsense. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you missed that point completely. >> tonight senator sheldon whitehouse on today's dramatic day of testimony. plus, dan gross of the brady campaign on the heroes fighting for gun safety and the villains who want to keep it the way it is. >>> the republican obsession with european austerity. kneecap the nation's economy. david cay johnston on today's troubling gdp report. >>> bobby jindal breaks his own rule. >> we've got to stop being the stupid party. >> find out how the poor in his state are about to start suffering on friday. >>> and brand-new polling proves again that we're living in a center-left country. tonight i'll tell you why it's up to one pers
congresswoman gabby giffords showed unbelievable courage on capitol hill today. now we'll see if the cowards in congress have the character to do something about guns in this country. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> too many children are dying. we must do something. >> gabby giffords makes a surprise emotional plea, and the nra responds with nonsense. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you missed that point completely. >>...
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. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," gabby giffords returns to deliver a passionate appeal for gun laws. >> speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it's will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> hillary clinton's exit from the world stage, but for how long? >> what do you think didn't go well, what went wrong? >> well, benghazi went wrong. >> when that phone call rings at 3:00 in the morning, who's best prepared to answer it in 2016? >> well, that is to be decided by the american people. >> but will her health be a deciding factor? >> i'm healthy enough and my stamina is great enough. i'll be fully recovered to do whatever i choose to do. >> massachusetts governor deval patrick chooses his former chief of staff to fill john kerry's seat. it's the first time two african-americans will be in the senate statement. and john kerry about to be famous on the world stage, but even in boston, sometimes not
. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," gabby giffords returns to deliver a passionate appeal for gun laws. >> speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it's will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> hillary clinton's exit from the world stage, but for how long? >> what do...
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gabby giffords at the white house. probably a very significant experience for people there close to it and the president. how does that meeting fit into the larger white house strategy right now? >> well, i think that you are starting to see president obama's strategy trying to get stiffer gun laws enacted unfold part of that tactic includes meeting with those who have a stake in this issue like gabby giffords and mark kelly. of course they have a pact so they are collaborating to get out a message. i also think you're going to see president obama hit the road, get out of d.c., get out of the kwhoois and take his message to the people. of course he's trying to get stiffer gun laws enacted which include reenstating the ban on assault weapons, limiting high-capacity magazines. we saw joe biden in virginia last week doing the same thing. he had a round table discussion about that. but then there's sort of this second track. they will be working in conjunction with the retooled version of the campaign which is organizing f
gabby giffords at the white house. probably a very significant experience for people there close to it and the president. how does that meeting fit into the larger white house strategy right now? >> well, i think that you are starting to see president obama's strategy trying to get stiffer gun laws enacted unfold part of that tactic includes meeting with those who have a stake in this issue like gabby giffords and mark kelly. of course they have a pact so they are collaborating to get out...
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chris cillizza, could anybody do a better job than gabby giffords to bring home the powerful impact of the gun debate and, in her case, the magazines? >> you know, andrea, it was incredibly sort of personal and touching, and i think even more so for those members of congress who know that she was at a constituent service event when this happened, that it could have been any one of them, and it happened to be her. i did think it was telling senator durbin from illinois, apologize former congressman giffords had already left, but apologized to mark kelly this hearing wasn't happening two years ago in the wake of her being shot, but i do think it's a telling sign that we tend to, newtown may have changed this dynamic, but we tend to have a huge discussion about guns and gun control and the need to regulate them, then that discussion goes away quickly. the question is, is newtown different, does gabby giffords help keep that momentum up with her testimony today? we're going to find out as this proposal president obama made goes through congress. >> ruth marcus, i wanted to show you and chr
chris cillizza, could anybody do a better job than gabby giffords to bring home the powerful impact of the gun debate and, in her case, the magazines? >> you know, andrea, it was incredibly sort of personal and touching, and i think even more so for those members of congress who know that she was at a constituent service event when this happened, that it could have been any one of them, and it happened to be her. i did think it was telling senator durbin from illinois, apologize former...
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peg laramie says "gabby gifford is the face of courage. what a fighter." and susan writes "respect courage, conviction, go, gabby. now go congress." thank you for all your comments. if you want to jump into the conversation, what you thought about today's dramatic hearing, we want you to go to our facebook page right now and join the conversation. and don't forget to like us on the facebook page with "the ed show." still to come, the man who told the gop to stop being the stupid party makes a real dumb move on health care in his state. we'll show you how governor bobby jindal's planned cuts, planned budget cuts would affect louisiana's poorest residents. stay with us. >>> welcome back to "the ed show". here on this program, we have been focused on the latest republican effort to rig the 2016 election by changing how the electoral votes are counted in a handful of battleground states. battleground states. currently, the winner of the state-wide vote gets all of the electoral college votes. under the plan proposed by republicans, electoral votes would be awa
peg laramie says "gabby gifford is the face of courage. what a fighter." and susan writes "respect courage, conviction, go, gabby. now go congress." thank you for all your comments. if you want to jump into the conversation, what you thought about today's dramatic hearing, we want you to go to our facebook page right now and join the conversation. and don't forget to like us on the facebook page with "the ed show." still to come, the man who told the gop to stop...
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when gabby giffords' husband spoke after she did, he talked about he and gabby both being gun owners themselves, talked about both being people who are pro-gun ownership, but he said that reform is necessary within the bounds of the second amendment that you can be both pro-gun ownership and pro-gun safety reform. specifically, captain mark kelly said our number one priority as a country should be to fix the background check system for buying guns. when people talk about the broken background check system, they're talking about the fact that if you buy a gun at a gun show, or through a private sale, just person to person, you're not required to go through a background check. if you buy from a licensed gun dealer, the law says you do need a background check. but 40% of the guns sold this country aren't sold that way. so our background check system is not really much of a system at all. and don't take it from me. you can take it from the baltimore county chief of police. >> on behalf of my colleagues across the nation, i'm here today to tell you that we are long overdue in strengthenin
when gabby giffords' husband spoke after she did, he talked about he and gabby both being gun owners themselves, talked about both being people who are pro-gun ownership, but he said that reform is necessary within the bounds of the second amendment that you can be both pro-gun ownership and pro-gun safety reform. specifically, captain mark kelly said our number one priority as a country should be to fix the background check system for buying guns. when people talk about the broken background...
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today, former representative gabby giffords opened the first congressional hearing on gun violence since the horrible shootings at sandyhook elementary. ms. gifford spoke with the experience as a survivor of an asas sane's bullet. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. the time is now. you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> be bold. be courageous. more than a month has passed since twenty-first graders were gunned down at sandyhook. and the violence is continuing daily. this morning, while the hearing was under way, three people were shot and wounded at an office complex in arizona. reports there has been more than 1400 shootings. 1400 shooting deaths since the massacre at sandyhook elementary school. that tally doesn't include the heart wrenching story of the high school honor student and band member from chicago who performed at some of president obama's inug ral festivities just last week. 15 years old. she had her whole life in front of her. but, yesterday, she was sholt in the back while si
today, former representative gabby giffords opened the first congressional hearing on gun violence since the horrible shootings at sandyhook elementary. ms. gifford spoke with the experience as a survivor of an asas sane's bullet. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. the time is now. you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> be bold. be courageous. more than a month has passed since...
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we heard a portion of gabby giffords's statement at the top of the show. i want to play the rest right now. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. thank you. >> kelly, obviously that was a gripping way to start the hearing. where do we go from there? >> it is rare you have something so emotionally and politically charged and have a witness like gabby gifford that is the panel can relate to so personally. that made today more compelling. key issues, democrats and many of them are supporting the idea of universal background checks to expand how they would know the background mental history and that sort of thing. also what to do about ammunition and should there be restrictions related to the number of bullets and the number of high capacity clips and that kind of thing. those are very difficult issues and many democrats on the panel acknowledged their own support for gun ownership and trying
we heard a portion of gabby giffords's statement at the top of the show. i want to play the rest right now. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. thank you. >> kelly, obviously that was a gripping way to start the hearing. where do we go from there? >> it is rare you have something so emotionally and...
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gabby giffords back on capitol hill today. she spoke on a subject that was difficult. keeping them honest tonight. why figuring out what the right thing to do is so difficult. and a terrifying moment at the winter x games. another incident your a snowmobile went careening into spectators and why people are taking a closer look at extreme sports. >>> right now a 6-year-old with asberger's syndrome who needs medication being held by a suspected killer. he is being held in a bunker. he is said to be a 65-year-old man, due in court today in connection with a run in last december with neighbors. instead, he is in that bunker in the yard. he stepped onto a school bus demanding two boys. he shot the driver. he is being hailed as a hero tonight. the gunman got away with one child. also with us. cnn's george howl how well is on the seen with us and byron sage and because the suspect allegedly holds extremist views, george, you're on the ground there. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, anderson, first and foremost, the welfare of this 6-year-old boy. investigators came out to
gabby giffords back on capitol hill today. she spoke on a subject that was difficult. keeping them honest tonight. why figuring out what the right thing to do is so difficult. and a terrifying moment at the winter x games. another incident your a snowmobile went careening into spectators and why people are taking a closer look at extreme sports. >>> right now a 6-year-old with asberger's syndrome who needs medication being held by a suspected killer. he is being held in a bunker. he is...
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. >> the day's other star witness, former congresswoman and shooting victim, gabby giffords left with the aid of her husband, who hardly sounded confident. you can they can get a bill passed? yet another sign the fate of gun control won't be settled at a hearing. >> nancy robinson is executive director. matt, let me start with you. pretty interesting about face by the nra and probably surprising a lot of people watching, but tell me why you don't think background checks, a universal background check is going to work? >> first of all, has there ever been a worse spokesman? seriously. i like the 98 version better. the idea it's a panecea, if you look at the three most recent high profile examples, the roar area shooter purchased guns legally. the only example where a background check might have changed things is in tucson, but we don't even know. it's a counterfactual if you couldn't have bought a gun legally, he would have found it some other way. >> first, even now, we've got limited checks. there's all these loopholes. department of justice says 1.9 million applications to buy guns w
. >> the day's other star witness, former congresswoman and shooting victim, gabby giffords left with the aid of her husband, who hardly sounded confident. you can they can get a bill passed? yet another sign the fate of gun control won't be settled at a hearing. >> nancy robinson is executive director. matt, let me start with you. pretty interesting about face by the nra and probably surprising a lot of people watching, but tell me why you don't think background checks, a universal...
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the hearing began with a very very dramatic moment when former congress woman gabby giffords came inest forted by the chairman, chuck grassley, and her husband, mark kelly. she was asked to give the very first words at the hearing before anybody else spoke. she did so only 72 words, very moving powerful and halting speech, because she still has a long way to go with her recovery. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. >> bill: it was all carefully laid out. she had obviously rehearsed it and it really does sound like a first grader right? reading aloud in the class. >> yeah, she had to relearn how to speak. >> bill: she looked these senator right in the eye and said, you know look we need you. >> you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> bill: seventy-two words every one counted for sure. then the chairman opened with his statement calling on everybody to be open-minded. try to come to some solution the high road, patrick leahy took, and then chuck grassley got up and he lit into a big attack on p
the hearing began with a very very dramatic moment when former congress woman gabby giffords came inest forted by the chairman, chuck grassley, and her husband, mark kelly. she was asked to give the very first words at the hearing before anybody else spoke. she did so only 72 words, very moving powerful and halting speech, because she still has a long way to go with her recovery. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. >>...
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i want to stick with the moment that was so powerful on the floor when gabby giffords. you said there is preparation that takes place behind the scenes. this is something you can talk to no one else can. what does it take for her to get out there? what preparation is involved? >> for example, gabby had an opportunity to give her first speech about six weeks ago now to an organization of speech pathologists and professionals. it was a five-sentence speech. she had to memorize it. she was able to deliver it. she practiced it for me when i saw her in washington. she did a fantastic job. today you can see she knew it well enough to recite it and was also reading it for guidance. for her to get to that moment it takes a tremendous amount of rehearsal and practice. gabby has the courage. you can clearly see the resolve. i think it's really important to note. she's not just reading that statement in a rote way. you could hear the emotion and the power behind the statement she was making because she feels strongly about this. we have to make sure we deal with reducing gun viole
i want to stick with the moment that was so powerful on the floor when gabby giffords. you said there is preparation that takes place behind the scenes. this is something you can talk to no one else can. what does it take for her to get out there? what preparation is involved? >> for example, gabby had an opportunity to give her first speech about six weeks ago now to an organization of speech pathologists and professionals. it was a five-sentence speech. she had to memorize it. she was...
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giffords. before testimony began, giffords made a plea for action. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> kelly followed, arguing for restrictions on magazine clips, enhanced mental health care, and advanced background checks. >> we're both gun owners, and we take that right and the responsibilities that come with it very seriously, but rights demand responsibility, and this right does not extend to terrorists, it does not extend to criminals, and it does not extend to the mentally ill. >> while wayne lapierre struck a posture less combative than previous press conferences, his views remain questionable, calling for an immediate blanket of security at schools, lapierre dismissed universal background checks, saying criminals would never submit to them. chairman leahy pressed lapierre on background checks and whether and how the nra head had changed his mind on closing gun show loopholes. >> should we have mandatory bac
giffords. before testimony began, giffords made a plea for action. >> violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> kelly followed, arguing for restrictions on magazine clips, enhanced mental health care, and advanced background checks. >> we're both gun owners, and we take that right and the responsibilities that come with it very seriously, but rights demand responsibility, and this right does not extend to...
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even more dramatic, gabby giffords labored yet passion nal plea for passion. >> speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. >> reporter: giffords is an advocate and so is her husband mark kelly. >> a strong supporter of the second amendment as anyone on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> reporter: at the other end of the table, the other star witness with a very different perspective. >> law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violent or deranged criminals: none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> mr. lapierre, that's the point. the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. we'll start them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> order. >> reporter: the line to get into this
even more dramatic, gabby giffords labored yet passion nal plea for passion. >> speaking is difficult but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you. >> reporter: giffords is an advocate and so is her husband mark kelly. >> a strong supporter of the second amendment as anyone on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she...
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the head of the nra and the husband of gabby giffords, mark kelly, will testify. david? >> along with them so many of those families from newtown. >>> another image from washington, president obama in his first joint interview with someone other than his wife, instead hillary clinton, the two battling it out in the democratic primary. making history coming down to the two of them. they formed an alliance. behind the scenes and in front of the cameras. right here, as they observed the bodies the brought home from libya. is it about a campaign that's yet to come? here's abc's david kerlekerley. >> i think hillary will go down as one of the finest secretaries of state we've had. >> reporter: a first -- a dual interview with the president -- who told cbs' "60 minutes" why he wanted to sit with hillary clinton. >> i want the country to appreciate what an extraordinary role she's played during the course of my administration. >> reporter: a remarkable conclusion to a relationship no-holds-barred fight. two senators. one expected to win, and the upstart. as obama came on, out c
the head of the nra and the husband of gabby giffords, mark kelly, will testify. david? >> along with them so many of those families from newtown. >>> another image from washington, president obama in his first joint interview with someone other than his wife, instead hillary clinton, the two battling it out in the democratic primary. making history coming down to the two of them. they formed an alliance. behind the scenes and in front of the cameras. right here, as they observed...
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as we get more, we'll bring it to you >> shep: on capitol hill, gabby giffords called on americans to pass tougher gun laws. she was a surprise witness at the hear. since newtown, connecticut, that left 26 dead, giffords was a victim of gun violence herself. and she pleaded with members of congress. >> speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem.. too many children are dying. too many children. >> the senate committee heard testimony from people on both sides of the gun battle. and the nrs said they should prosecute laws already on the books. >> it's a national disgrace. the fact is we could dramatically cut crime in this country with guns and save lives all over if we start enforcing the federal laws on the books. i'm talking about drug dealers and felons with guns, and they're not being forced. >> a bill to ban many types of assault style weapons, and put limits on high capacity magazines. mike is on capitol hill. and the question is, how much fire power does the average american need? >> reporter: that's the question, shep, does somebody
as we get more, we'll bring it to you >> shep: on capitol hill, gabby giffords called on americans to pass tougher gun laws. she was a surprise witness at the hear. since newtown, connecticut, that left 26 dead, giffords was a victim of gun violence herself. and she pleaded with members of congress. >> speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem.. too many children are dying. too many children. >> the senate committee heard testimony...
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. >> reporter: when arizona congresswoman gabby giffords was shot, lapierre said it happened not far from a school, a gun-free zone. once again, he lit into his foes. >> it didn't make any difference. their laws don't work. their lies don't ring true. and if tucson tells us anything at all, it tells us this. government failed. >> reporter: now even with newtown still close at hand, he says it is gun control advocates who are endangering america. >> we believe in our right to defend ourselves. and our families, with semiautomatic firearms technology. >> reporter: still, for all his bluster, lapierre has turned the nra into a political juggernaut, amassing more than four million members and pouring $16 million into political races last year alone. making politicians fear not only his bark but also his bite. erin? >> thanks to tom foreman. >>> still to come, controversy? what controversy? if you haven't heard about this, here goes. the question is are companies playing the race card and why are we falling for it. the ad of the super bowl. >>> later in the show, seafoam, as high as ten f
. >> reporter: when arizona congresswoman gabby giffords was shot, lapierre said it happened not far from a school, a gun-free zone. once again, he lit into his foes. >> it didn't make any difference. their laws don't work. their lies don't ring true. and if tucson tells us anything at all, it tells us this. government failed. >> reporter: now even with newtown still close at hand, he says it is gun control advocates who are endangering america. >> we believe in our...
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we heard these arguments going all the way back to aurora and going back to gabby giffords. this is the fear and the mongering they put out there. remember, lapierre said when they came out and spoke for the first time, oh, we should be having more police officers on the street. well -- and in schools. i agree with that. i would love to have more police officers in all of our communities. that alone will not solve the problem. it's got to be everything together holistically. more police, better education, certainly mental health, those are the things that we need to do. so those that want to work with us, that's great. but the nra, which they kind of gave us hints that they were willing to work with us but now they have totally flipped and they want nothing to do with us. >> it's nothing from then ra. the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gag
we heard these arguments going all the way back to aurora and going back to gabby giffords. this is the fear and the mongering they put out there. remember, lapierre said when they came out and spoke for the first time, oh, we should be having more police officers on the street. well -- and in schools. i agree with that. i would love to have more police officers in all of our communities. that alone will not solve the problem. it's got to be everything together holistically. more police, better...
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it's very interesting to watch gabby giffords yesterday. her read just is inherently very emotional as she tries to really say every single word. here's a little bit of what she said to those at this hearing. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> just to hear her struggle to get the words out really i think just speaks volumes, if you will, about all that she's been through and all about this debate. and yet this hearing did not then go forward with everybody piling on and trying to work together. it became very divisive, kind of contentious. do you think gabrielle giffords can help affect policy in this manner? >> very, very desfinitely and profoundly. her statement was one of the shortest but most powerful public statements before any congressional hearing i've ever heard. it was really so direct. yes, she did struggle with those words, but there was no mistaking the passion and the depth of her commitment. and when she said be bold, be courageous, americans are counting on you, she also said that chil
it's very interesting to watch gabby giffords yesterday. her read just is inherently very emotional as she tries to really say every single word. here's a little bit of what she said to those at this hearing. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> just to hear her struggle to get the words out really i think just speaks volumes, if you will, about all that she's been through and all about this debate. and yet this hearing did not then go forward...
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gifford and especially mark kelly her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he talked about people grow og up with rifles. a 10-year-old receiving a rifle from his father. that there is not the demonizeing of the other side of people who have firearms as part of their family and tradition. i thought that show a certain maturity and i hope a political awareness. >> woodruff: we know the president is going to keep talking about this. he is due to go to minnesota on monday to talk about this the gun issue again. david, you mentioned immigration. there was you the bipartisan group of senators come out this week with the plan and the next day the president rolled out his plan. so you d
gifford and especially mark kelly her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he...
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gifford and especially mark kelly, her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he talked about people grow og up with rifles. a 10-year-old receiving a rifle from his father. that there is not the demonizing of the other side, of people who have firearms as part of their family and tradition. i thought that show a certain maturity and i hope a political awareness. >> woodruff: we know the president is going to keep talking about this. he is due to go to minnesota on monday to talk about this, the gun issue again. david, you mentioned immigration. there was, you the bipartisan group of senators come out this week with the plan and the next day the president rolled out his plan. so you
gifford and especially mark kelly, her husband who said that if there were background-- that gabby gifford would not have been testifying that day. i think there is a good chance on high capacity magazines. i mean when you've got military style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, they're intended for one person. and that is to inflict as much damage on human beings in as short as time as possible. that is what they are there for. i thought the president showed some presence when he...
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. >> your good friend, gabby giffords, the former congresswoman who gave some very emotional testimony at the senate hearing on wednesday. >> she did. >> and i'm wondering, what are her plans? obviously, when she speaks, the resonance is so strong. and do you think that she and her husband, mark kelly, will support some specific legislation? >> you know, they've made it very clear through their organization and the creation of it, americans for responsible solutions, and their testimony the other day, they support universal background checks. they support doing something about these high-capacity magazines and, you know, mark has made it very clear that if it were not for a high-capacity magazine, fewer people would have been killed in the tucson shooting that gabby was a victim. clearly, fewer people would have been killed in -- at newtown, as well as aurora. and so those two things -- there seems to start to be -- develop some consensus armound. but we've got to make sure this continues to be a ground-up, grass roots, ground swell of support. because, you know, i wish that there were
. >> your good friend, gabby giffords, the former congresswoman who gave some very emotional testimony at the senate hearing on wednesday. >> she did. >> and i'm wondering, what are her plans? obviously, when she speaks, the resonance is so strong. and do you think that she and her husband, mark kelly, will support some specific legislation? >> you know, they've made it very clear through their organization and the creation of it, americans for responsible solutions, and...
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can gun control lobbists like the former congresswoman, gabby giffords and her husband, started their own super pac on this. can they amass enough money to fight this? and is that what it's going to take, people that stand up to the nra and match them dollar for dollar? >> i'm skeptical that the giffords organization can. the one who can is michael bloomberg who has quite a bit of money, has been running -- has been making a very important play to try to become a counter to the nra in certain districts where they're trying to enter in particular. one thing that should broadly be said, it's not clear the nra's power comes from this kind of lobbying. their success rate of getting into elections and shaping or moving in their direction has not been very high. they have a couple fairly high profile in their belt but people dispute this interpretation. comes from an interpretation that they were behind the democrats losing control of congress in 1994. so if gun control groups, be it bloomberg or giffords' organization can show they can defeat one or two incumbents opposing background check
can gun control lobbists like the former congresswoman, gabby giffords and her husband, started their own super pac on this. can they amass enough money to fight this? and is that what it's going to take, people that stand up to the nra and match them dollar for dollar? >> i'm skeptical that the giffords organization can. the one who can is michael bloomberg who has quite a bit of money, has been running -- has been making a very important play to try to become a counter to the nra in...